oooh yeah - big move
OIP-41 - Launch Olympus Incubator program
i really like this proposal and i think we can hold a ohmers hackthon
Extremely exciting! The first steps into becoming the bank of DeFi. You love to see it.
Smol brain here: would this have avoided situations like the retreat of TIME regarding the 33% ohm buy? txh
This is unreal!! Olympus becoming a VC!!
Olympus is already having good networking with other protocols and projects with OlympusPro, strong (3, 3) community and plenty of capital to deploy. These are all going to give the synergy affect to the new projects who are looking to partner with Olympus. If Olympus able to get good projects or protocols at early stage then the backing per OHM will increase significantly if any of the partnered project becomes huge success. And ofcourse most of the upcoming projects which are looking to partner with Olympus will be having a good rate of success. I am fully agree to this proposal
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I think this is a good ideal, but also see it as a way to slowly bleed the treasury. $250k is a not insignificant amount of money.
Is OHM to be used for high-risk VC activities now, and deviate from its focus as a risk-mitigated reserve currency? Also, what additional burden does this place on the core DAO team? What kind of vetting for each project will be required? This proposal carries an entirely new set of work load as a result of the new line of business.
I'm a fan of helping the community out. This feels more like a manic urge to enter high-risk arena with little benefit.
Fully agree.
That’s a big agree from me! Less go
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Not a big fan of the proposal. Things need more clarification.
- The opportunity we invest in / thesis here should be explained better. Now it's fairly open ended.
- No upper limit on spending (cap on amount of projects, etc). VC math needs to be worked out or run this as a trial of X amount of projects where the expected value is 0. Or put it off completely as a marketing effort with a budget similarly to grant programs.
- Bleed on the market. The projects dumperino (yes they will).
- Potentially skews incentives. Teams should come to Olympus products because they want them, not because we fund them.
In general there's unlimited risk money in crypto including, professional funds, unprofessional funds, angels, the public, DAOs and valuations can be sky high. Not a business I'd want Olympus to be in.
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Thanks for putting this forward. I want to vote yes for this, since it is a good idea. But I also want more community involvement. Saying yes to it without any involvement in the selection process for the "incubees" feels odd to me. Nothing against the Strategos, but it's just that the ask seems a bit like a stretch.
What I mean is: If the idea is for this to occur so frequently that it makes OIP votes undesirable, then in that case, at least in my view, either:
A- 250k is too big of an amount per project without more community scrutiny, especially if confidential information is to be part of the agreements, as it is likely to be expected. I understand the reason for confidential parts of an agreement, but (IMHO) in that case a possible solution is that the "pre-authorized" sum could be lower so as to preserve the DAO OHM reserves. An optional expansion of the incubee distribution could then be subjected to an OIP for projects that seem specially beneficial to the DAO as evaluated by the rest of the community. Or we could set up a milestone framework for all agreements, to be able to stop funding towards any project that is not meeting expectations.
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B- It means taking we're too many incubees right off the bat and exposing the DAO to a lot of risk that might be unnecessary. Proposed solution in this case is to be more selective and subject incubees to a OIP vote where the value of their proposal is to be assessed by the DAO community
I guess my main question is: How many projects can we expect per "round" of 4-6 months? Is there a preliminary list of projects? No need to post specifics, but just a ballpark figure or an estimation of the number of projects that are to be expected would be really helpful to estimate how much OHM reserves the DAO is exposing by saying "Yes", since we are talking about n*250k and that's a very different number if n=10 than if n=200.
I'm 100% in favor of this coming online. Ohmies already have the potential to incubate multiple projects at will, and I think we're already demonstrating that informally.
My only concern is that governance tokens can be a point of failure. On one hand, Olympus becomes a central target if it accrues enough voting power in enough protocols; on the other hand, Olympus may be compelled to swap out voting power for risk-free assets, thusly opening the incubated protocols to external influence. I understand that in the first scenario, OHM would have additional monetary premium and be hardened as such, and in the second scenario, we may be able to swap with other sufficiently decentralized protocols. Is this an issue, and if so, are there any additional parameters that could mitigate them?
happy to vote YES
Great idea(s).
ProofofSteveGM Will do!
Amazing , the Olympus team doesn’t stop building , so grateful to be an Ohmie and watch it become a behemoth in real time
I’m 100% supportive of this endeavor. Positive sum games > Zero sum games.
Olympus has amassed a significant treasury over the last ~ 6 months and alongside its main value prop - has built out the Olympus Pro product. An Olympus incubator, is a natural extension of its base infrastructure and Olympus Pro offering. This incubator idea will allow for more dynamism within the OlympusDAO ecosystem with increased value accrual per ohm of capital deployed.
If Olympus is to become the De-central bank of Defi, it makes sense to support innovative financial primitives. The associated risk in these endeavors is clearly outweighed by the potential upside.
One thing worth noting that could be interesting to explore: creating a vc marketplace with individual tickets (NFTs) that also allow Ohmies to participate in the incubation process. Setting aside a % of the grant that only the community has access to.
All in all, I’m very excited for this to be implemented. Well done to everyone involved